10 Things The Honda Talon Specs Don’t Tell You
Digging deeper into the both machines
10 Things The Honda Talon Specs Don’t Tell You
The hype and excitement of Hondas recent Talon announcement has past. Prices are due to be set in January and will be 20K for the X and 21K for the R. The on sale date is still set for Spring. So far we have had only a small test drive that you can read about HERE. Now before we get substantial time behind the wheel for further testing and comparing, we did a little digging to find even more about the machine. Here are ten things we found that Honda Talon Specs don’t tell you.
The Talon features the same size ROPS tubing as a Polaris RZR at 1.75 inches. So, in addition to Hondas own accessory line up, there will be a host of accessories from companies like Assault and Super ATV ready and available for the new Talon.
Both Talon’s use 15 inch wheels that are 6.5 inches wide in the front with a 50mm offset and 8 inches wide in the rear with a 33mm offset. The X wheels have a machined look while the Talon R has black wheels. They all have what Honda measures a 4/136 bolt pattern. We have checked with several wheel manufacturers which tell us, the 4/137 bolt pattern wheels they sell should work properly. Can-Am X3’s, Kawasaki Teryx’s use the 4/137 bolt pattern. Hondas Pioneer is listed as using a 4/136 also. The wheel stud holes on the stock Talon wheels are 14mm and the studs are 12mm.
Yamaha’s YXZ1000R paddle shifting SS model has a launch mode, the Honda does not. Launch Mode allows you to rev the engine and dump the clutch at full RPM in a drag racing or race start situation. On the Yamaha, it works with this sequence. 1 Put your left foot on the brake, 2 Grab both paddles at the same time, 3 push the gas peddle with your right foot on the gas and build the RPM’s above 8,000. 4 release the paddles, 5 Holeshot! It’s possible that the feature could be programed into the Talon later.
Honda is working with several teams to get the Talon into racing at the Factory level. Expect to see them at a few races in 2019 and then with full commitment in 2020. The rest of us will able to take part in Honda’s lucrative contingency program R3/ Red Rider Rewards that includes race series from coast to coast and the R and X will be eligible. We will announce the details of that program as soon as they are official. You can sign up at HERE.
In the specs you can read that both engines are identical in each Talon but did you know the frames are too. Even though the rear suspension systems are completely different on each machine, the frames are in fact the same. The extra suspension pick up points in the rear are just left empty. So it’s conceivable, if you were interested in installing aftermarket suspension anyway, you could start with either machine and have the width of your choice. However, keep in mind the rear hubs and steering rack are major components that you may have to swap out depending on which width or style you wanted to go with. Those components are machine specific.
The Talon’s I-4WD system is basically a repurposed anti lock brake system. Every brake line is feed into a control manifold that sits between the the master cylinder and each wheel. Through a series of sensors the computer modulates brake pressure on certain corners to give the wheel with the most traction more power. However, unlike antilock brakes, you can’t feel this working while it is controlling fishtailing and wheel slip climbing over rocks. In 2WD, the system distributes brake force from tires that have a light contact patch to the ones with more traction.
We like the size and style of the Talon seats. However, only the driver’s side is adjustable. On the good side, we can say it’s the best sliding seat roller system we have used in a SXS. We have not tested it dirty though. The seats are not meant to be swapped side to side. The driver’s side actually sits on a frame raising it up to the height of the passenger side which is dictated by the fuel tank.
Although Honda has not said if they will release a turbo model anytime soon, the piston oil jets inside the stock engine makes us think they are ready for it. This is a feature typically found on turbo charged power plants. The drivetrain is more than capable of handling double the stock claimed 104 horsepower.
The bulk of the Talon is actually made in the United States at Honda’s Timonsville South Carolina assembly plant. Parts like plastics, electrical and suspension are sourced from vendors around the U.S. and elsewhere but the frame, front and rear differentials are made in house. The Engine and DCT come from Honda in Japan.
Top speed of both machines is electronically controlled to top out at 74 MPH. In low range the speeds are 40 percent lower through all gears. Expect the aftermarket to tinker with this gear that is located on the front end of the main engine component and sits just below and behind the passenger seat. This housing has it own gear oil that gets changed separate from the engine oil. Huge automotive sized, balanced and phased drive shafts come from here and go fore and aft.
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